This one hit home to me because I am an avid hunter and feel strongly that animals are there for the use of humans as well as for the community and environment we live in. I feel that people have an obligation to utilize animals in a humane, wise, and efficient way. For those that believe in the bible, it states that God created animals to use with wisdom and in times of famine. I agree that people should always treat animals humanely, but I will always love hunting and will do my best to hunt responsibly.
I think that Penn & Teller’s Bullshit episode on P.E.T.A. tells us they people don’t like animals and some people do. I think that killing animals is wrong because animals are like us in a way too because they would need caring and loving from others. Like people said,” Dogs is a man best friend.” I agree on some people like animals and so doesn’t but in my opinion I think at the homeless shelter for animals they shouldn’t killed them for no reason.
This episode was to me extremely funny, these people are crazy as hell. I don’t really understand what goes on in ones head to think that it is ok to blow up places and tell people that it is bad to have pets and stuff like they think. I totally get if you don’t want to eat meat that’s cool whatever but when you take it as far as these people that’s stupid. The thing that is funny is that they think that we should realese all the animal’s in all the zoo’s but apperantly they don’t get that they will die so they basicly want to kill abunch of animals because they think that they are not being treated fair, nice! I thought it was interesting how penn brought up the whole freezer thing and how they put more animal’s down then they saved or something like that.
People who work for PETA are dangerous and violent. Animals are not equal to humans. It is wrong to attack humans to save animals. Have you ever noticed that PETA people are really quick to throw paint on old ladies wearing fur coats, but have you ever seen them throwing paint at a biker bar where everybody is wearing leather? They are cowards.
This episode was another favorite of mine. I am a huge animal lover, but by no means am I active or involved with PETA. Watching this episode was really sad. I hated watching the abuse of animals, I hate knowing that that is out there it makes me want to do more. I think it is great there are people out there actively trying to protect these animals, but the extreme measures that PETA goes to ARE cult like, and scary. I agree with the gal in class the other night that thought it was ridiculous that by PETA standards you shouldn't have a pet. I took my brothers cat for him when he moved because he could no longer have her. Had I not done that Jinx would be taken to Humane Society and put down if no one adopted her. Also I am pretty sure my dog Nia AND cat Jinx would tell you if they could that they would rather live with their people than fend for themselves. PETA is bullshit.
This episode I learned a bit more about P.E.T.A's stand in what they believe. I am glad that they have been able to stop animal cruelty as far as pets go. I would never intentionally hurt a pet. I do not agree that all animals should be spared. I know that a lot of good has come from testing animals for medical purposes.
I believe that most of the animals I eat were put on this earth for that purpose. PETA has a whole world of protesting to do to save their friends. All over the world different cultures are killing animals for many different reasons; clothing, medicinal purposes, money; for their ivory and such. I don't agree with all of that, but that is what they know, so until they feel it is wrong PETA will be around till the earth stops turning. I also think the extreme members of PETA are crazy and need to spend more time making a positive difference in the world and less time being angry and hurting others. Maybe PETA will someday realize that if you stop killing animals they just might over populate and give us humans more than we can handle. It is the circle of life, we are the top of the food chain.
Humans needs take precedence over animals needs. I think it is more important to save a humans life than an animals. I don’t like the thought of factory farming and animal cruelty. If I find a spider in my house I will most often catch it and let it go out side instead of smashing it. I don’t like to hurt animals or see them suffer, but I think suffering is a part of life. I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing an animal for food, but I think it should be killed quickly and humanly. I think I would eat a lot less meat if I was the one who had to do the killing. From what the episode of BS showed PETA goes too far in protecting animal’s rights.
I think i liked this episode the most out of all of them because there were so many interesting facts they found out about PETA. When you first hear about PETA you think, good for those people who actually take the time to care for animals. because someone has to right? buy what you really find out is that they are not so good after all. they themselves kill animals in their own headquarters. and they support the violence and vandalism that the other animal rights group does(sorry cant remember the name) I think Penn and Teller hit the nail on the haid by saying they are all a bunch of hypocrits!! Seth K.
I think that P.E.T.A is rediculous. I think that animals should be treated humanly but what P.E.T.A calls for is crazy. I love hunting and I think that as long as you eat the meat and hunt wisely, their is nothing wrong with that. I believe that animals are put on this earth for the use of humans and that meat is a natural part of life. Does P.E.T.A want to stop a lion from eating a gazzell, because the gazzel might not like the idea. I think that is rediculous. In an article I was reading it was talking how P.E.T.A was trying to save a large herd of deer from a hazardous area, they loaded the deer in trailers and the stress of the ordeal made all the deer die. P.E.T.A might think they are doing good things for animals but they are going against the way of life.
This episode of Bullshit was informative on P.E.T.A. It was interesting to find out how this organization was showering them selfs in how great they are with animals and how they should be liberated yet they them selfs kill animals AND hid it. What i can't understand is how so many people went along with it. It may be possible most of the people didn't know what was really going on. P.E.T.A to me is not worthy of trying to provide "better" for animals because they would go about all the wrong ways.
I've always been a meat-eater. I don't care how others feel about the subject, because i simply like my meat.
Now, being a meat-eater hasn't stopped me from understanding and being open-minded to the idea of being a vegetarian or vegan. I'm all for open choices and free will. However, i do not condone any radical approaches to the lifestyles mentioned. I believe i deserve to eat meat, just like vegans and vegetarians deserve to refuse to do the same. My choices should be respected also.
I realize that most PETA members are not as radical as those shown and portrayed. Penn and Teller are taking an extreme side to an issue, and I realized this going into the episode. To those that are radical activists though, I think its outrageous and should be put to an end.
One really funny thing I noticed in this episode was one of the activists getting arrested was wearing a fur coat. I think people can still eat meat and want to stop animal cruilty.
I am an avid hunter and hunting is a huge part of wildlife conservation. PETA thinks that hunting is cruel, however without hunting deer and elk and many other animals, they would be starving to death because there would be so many animals around that there wouldn't be enough food for all of them. Hunting isn't just a way to go have a good time and kill whatever you see, it is a huge part of wildlife conservation to help thin the numbers of the animals so i feel that it is a big part of the society not animal cruelty.
I learned a lot from this episode of Penn and Teller. They did a great job at presenting information on PETA. Before I seen this I didn't know what PETA really did other then they were against animal cruelty. After this episode I was amazed to learn some of the things PETA does. I don't like animal cruelty and i am against but PETA goes to far.
Those people from PETA obviously have not lived in a third world country, where homeless dogs could wonder around in the dark alleys and in big hurds and would bark and attack you when they are hungry. Nobody in such country would even think organization for animal right are practical or probable to succeed. Animals should never be put into equal positions as humans. I really think that animal liberation is neither desirable nor practical for the major population of the human race. The methods and persuasion that those organizations use are not Ethical according to what we had been presented by Penn and Teller. If these people would use their energy into more efficient way rather than harassing innocent people then animals would have better chance of living unharmed by humans in the wilderness. Of course not all of them would survive out there (especially little exotic animals like Chihuahuas and etc.), but that seems to slip from the overall viewpoint of ALF and PETA. Unlike humans animals do not have strongly developed sense of ethics or sympathy.
Over the years we have spent millions of dollars and man hours repenting for the way we have treated the indians of North America. We came in killed many of them, took them from there homelands and forced them to live the way our ancestors lived. Why did we do this? Because they were a conquered nation. They did not have the advance knowledge to stand up and fight for themselves. The relied on our knowledge and goodwill to treat them Humanly. This is similar to the animal population. I feel we are far superior to the animals in this nation and will continue to utilize these animals in a human way to further our way of life. I don't agree that we should pay a conquered nation, unless they were conquered under false pretense and I don't think we should pay for these animals. If we have them locked up and shelters and they begin to get over populated then we kill them. This helps them live human lives until they can be adopted out. Now we know the majority of these animals will be put to sleep, we just don't have space for them. But is this really as bad as PETA or ALF makes it sound? Should we release the animals to run in our streats similar to chicago where coyotes are venturing into the suburbs and forcing a increase in the human to animal contact. This sitution all falls on your perception. My perception is kill those little bastards and keep the human's way of life on pace.
Those PETA and AFL(?) people were crazy! I don't think that animals have the same rights as humans, and i don't think that there life/health should EVER be put before that of a Human. I thought it was interesting listening to the vegetarian couple in our class. They made a good point, and expressed their opinions very well, and i respect them for what they do. I thought it was interesting in our discussion on the profanity episode that it came up that when people use words such as freak, shoot, or darn, that it's like cheating, because "we all know what they really mean" I thought of this in the same way as substitute meats. A woman in our class talked about how the substitutes for meats 30 years ago are nothing compared to what they are now, and that her family members on some couldn’t even taste the difference. So, when an individual chooses to not eat meat, but they want their substitutes to taste like meat, so isn’t this just like cheating? They think it’s wrong to eat meat, but they want what they do eat to taste just like the real thing.
I think that PETA tend to exaggerate their issues a lot. I’m sure that most of their workers have had to use medicine tested on animals for something. Most of the medicine that is available now is thanks to the animals. What they want, “Liberation for all animals”, it’s just not possible now. New medicine should be tested on animals before humans, if they want to change that they should volunteer for the tests. I agree with their point on having wild animals as pets because they disserved better than to be in a cage.
I think that is great that we have organizations that stand up for the rights of animals. It is unfortunate that some of these organizations think that breaking the law will fix the problem. You can’t fix a deed with an evil deed even though sometimes it seems like that. I am not saying they should turn a blind eye when animals are suffering; just use different tactics to achieve their goal. I think we as a society in general take our meat source for granted and fail to know all the aspects of how the animals that provide the meat are treated. It’s important to remember that animals are living creatures and must be treated with respect.
I thing P.E.T.A. is a fake. All they do to grab attention is to set something on fire or harrass someone's family and that is not the way to do it. If you want to get a point across that is not the best way to aproach the situation. Don't get me wrong but I do believe in the fair treatment of animals. But when I hear news that someone had 50 or more animals in their home and are mistreated I do feel sad. Those people should get punished for what they do. Now on the issue of eating meat, I thing God put animals on this earth for a reason and in order for past generations to have survived they had to kill them to eat. If it weren't for them we wouldn't be here today.
I really liked this one. I consider myself to be a person who likes animals and I don't think it is right to be cruel to them. I do feel that human beings should take precedence over animals though so I am in favor of testing medical practices on animals. As was said in class though that can still be done in a humane way such as not spraying hair spray in an animals eyes. Just use common sense there! I do think how PETA tries to intimidate people, and become violent is not the way to fix things and just hurts their argument. I do have to mention just as a side note I thought what they said about PETA not wanting blind people to have dogs to guide them was hilarious and totally ridiculos. PETA's message means well, but they go about it in the wrong way.
I am all about animal rights and protecting animals if possible. But if you're willing to attack a person to save an animal then what are you saying about people's rights? I though it was very interesting that they stated people who belong to PETA can't own pets. I have a cat of my own that I saved from a neglectful home rather than it being sent to the humane society to possibly be put down. Is this saying that I am going against an animal's rights because I am keeping it safe?
I can't just bash on PETA though. I think it is like any other group or organization. There are always radicals that put a bad name on everything. I've never really looked into PETA so other than what I saw on this show I don't know anything. Which means I've only seen the bad stuff and I know that PETA does do good things as well we just weren't shown that. I think any person that decides they can judge what one life is worth over another is wrong. We are not God and shouldn't have the right to play God. I don't consider myself to be able to judge whether an animal's life or someone else's life is more important and I don't feel that anyone has that right.
The episode on PETA shows that some members of the PETA are dangerous and violent. I agree with people’s responsibility for their own animals but I don’t think they have the same right as a human. Controversy depends on how each person thinks and it is one’s concerning matter of opinion. It should be allowed to express what they think but the PETA seems to ignore other’s opinion. Any violent activity is not allowed between people and people. I appreciate that they have been able to save animal’s right but they will have to convince the people to find right way.
Animals need to be able to live in safe enviroments and those that don't give them a safe enviroment needs to be held accountable. PETA is going about animal rights the wrong way. Violence never makes things right. It only adds to the problem. If we would to let every animal run free and do what every they want. We would have cats & dogs running every having kittens & puppies all over the place. Then we would have to clean up after them or live in their mess that they don't clean up after. After all they are animals not humans.
This episode of Bullshit was very interesting, I am not a big follower of PETA and I didn't really understand why the members felt so strongly about animal rights and this episode helped with removing the veil. I do realize this is very one sided and that they are trying to portray PETA as being violent, but in certain aspects PETA is doing good. I personally believe that we must use animals to our advantage to survive, but we can't abuse our ability to do these things. Animal cruelty is still wrong and as the dominating race we need to take control and responsibility for our actions and the actions of others around us.
What a bunch of pansies. PETA is such a wierd group of people (sorry if you're a member and I just offended you). But wow, animals get treated wrong and you have to start all this for it, why not do the same thing for human. So many are treated unjustly especially outside of our country. Yea there are Human Rights Activist, but these PETA people are a lot more for their equal treatment of animals than the Activist for the human, could use that enthusiasm in the Human Rights section, why not joing them? Well anyways, the whole PETA campaign is weird. I mean getting that walk in freezer to store animals?? I thought you wanted equal treatment, you wouldn't store humans in there would you??? Then getting all pissed at the animal shelters that put animals to sleep, you're people did the same thing! What a bunch of hypocrites. Yes animals often get treated unjustly but look at the other side, there are so many more that get treated like Gods. Man how bout working equal treatment that way, provide me with food everyday, let me do whatever I want, let me control you with simple barks and scratches against' the door. Pft, PETA is a waste of effort.
PETA is really strange to me. I understand that it is sad and sometimes cruel the way that some animals die to become our food, but it’s the way of life we are on top of the food chain for a reason. I enjoy meat to much to ever feel bad about eating meat, I know they have made things to be a substitute to meat but I rather eat the real thing. As long as we are not eating dogs or cats I'll be ok.
I am a person who has pets and love them. Even I like animals, I could not give up meats. I think it is different problem. Meats and vegetables are all foods for humans. Those are just foods. So, I can not understand the people who are member of P.E.T.A. I do not agree with them.
I don't care what people say but killing animal are illigal. That is really sad when we can't do anything when seeing them being kill by the hunter. Some of them got killed just because we need meat for our everday nutrition, but for some reason we don't eat bear, our mouses, so why we have to kill them? I saw some people eating dogs meat, I feel so mad, and I couln't stand those people, they are so cute to be eat by human. so I think the government need to have the law to protect them from being kill by the human.
After I watched this episode, I can be notified of P E T A. So, I consider about animal rights again. But I could find that they are kind of odd. They claim to be animal rights so, they do demonstrate in front of bunch of people. But, they have the wrong idea which uses violence to people for protecting animals. Think about that - it is something wrong. I think that their rights are also important, but humans are more important than they because I am human. I do not want to give up humans. I think no matter what violence cannot be permitted to people or animals. Everyone has different opinions : so we respect them for what they do. I want to try to say again : No violence. I hate that.
While I’m used to people seeing all vegetarians and animal activists as crazy people, it doesn’t make me appreciate it any more than I would if it were a new thing. There are certainly people out there who take things to an unhealthy extreme but that’s the same as with any group of people whether it’s religiously, politically, racially, etc. I’ve been a vegetarian animal activist for several years now and I don’t shove my views down people’s throats. I don’t get upset with people for eating meat or wearing leather. Would I prefer it if no one did? Sure. The world would be a healthier place and it would be so much better for the animals. I don’t try to convert people to my way of thinking unless they ask me to. This goes for animal rights, politics, religion, etc. and I don’t think it’s cool to lump all of us into one big group of extremist idiots!
Peta has a good cause in trying to get commercially farmed animals treated humanely and better living conditions while they are alive. They lose all credibility when they say people should not have pets and no animals should be used for food.
Face it, if humans were not able to eat meat it is a good possibility there wouldn't be any humans on earth today. It's easy when you live in an urban society where all your fruits and vegetables and other meat alternatives are made for you. Try living away from society maybe in a shack in the mountains and growing enough fruits and vegetables and non-meat products to survive a brutal winter.
P.E.T.A., just like many other groups, has radical members. It’s important to be humane and kind to animals and if you feel you are making a difference by not eating meat, more power to you, but don’t hate the people (or bomb buildings) that do. As far as protesting in front of the humane society because they put lost and unwanted animals to sleep is ridiculous. It is less humane to let them live in a cage for the rest of their lives or go free. While I was in Greece, there were stray cats everywhere. Kittens who survived lived on the streets with flies in their eyes, skeletally thin digging through trash cans and living in the unbearable heat because Greece doesn’t have a government or state run humane society to neuter or capture the stray animals. There used to be stray dogs everywhere but they had to kill them all before the Olympics. Letting the population get that huge and then killing or letting them starve or get hit by cars is much crueler in my opinion.
PETA is an organization that is against animal cruelty. The thing i saw that was most shocking is that they were involved in burning down that building, and people who are at the top of PETA are going against the things that they believe the most. Obviously in every organization there is some people that will not go with everything they believe, but when there is people at the very top that are doing wrong things then thats a problem. I think that if they have a problem with how animals are treated then they should not participate in that. But when you go to the extreme that PETA has then that is a big problem.
this issue is a very stange one for me because so many people are on both sides of the fence and can see both view points. it is hard for me to stand behind one of the sides because i love animals and dont feel it is right to kill them or in a in-humane way but at the same time we do need to survive and we do need to control there population( ie hunting). i feel there is a line that needs to be drawn but where? its different for everyone.
For thousands of years, humans have been in the evolutionary cycle of eating meat. I personally believe it is a part of our human nature and that it should stay a part of it.
Yes, I do feel terrible for those poor animals that get treated so awfully by their owners, and for those little baby chickens that only get to live a few days...But when it comes to my food, I'm not going to cut out the protein or deliciousness in my life as a result of that...I suppose I'm selfish in that way, but I can't help that.
PETA calls for "total animal liberation." In essence, no milk, no meat, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets of any kind, right? Try to imagine a life without all of those things...
And don't even get me started on that British PETA chair woman...Total psycho.
i can see where peta is coming from protecting those that can't protect themselves, but i think sometimes they take it way too far. im told that back in the day they used to throw red paint on people and call them murderers. wow really? i think it just boils back down to the whole issue of minding your own god damn business. if people want to hunt let them hunt, they have a license. what they need to do is go after poachers who are hunting illegal animals. dont go after people doing everything legit.
This one hit home to me because I am an avid hunter and feel strongly that animals are there for the use of humans as well as for the community and environment we live in. I feel that people have an obligation to utilize animals in a humane, wise, and efficient way. For those that believe in the bible, it states that God created animals to use with wisdom and in times of famine. I agree that people should always treat animals humanely, but I will always love hunting and will do my best to hunt responsibly.
ReplyDeleteI think that Penn & Teller’s Bullshit episode on P.E.T.A. tells us they people don’t like animals and some people do. I think that killing animals is wrong because animals are like us in a way too because they would need caring and loving from others. Like people said,” Dogs is a man best friend.” I agree on some people like animals and so doesn’t but in my opinion I think at the homeless shelter for animals they shouldn’t killed them for no reason.
ReplyDeleteThis episode was to me extremely funny, these people are crazy as hell. I don’t really understand what goes on in ones head to think that it is ok to blow up places and tell people that it is bad to have pets and stuff like they think. I totally get if you don’t want to eat meat that’s cool whatever but when you take it as far as these people that’s stupid. The thing that is funny is that they think that we should realese all the animal’s in all the zoo’s but apperantly they don’t get that they will die so they basicly want to kill abunch of animals because they think that they are not being treated fair, nice! I thought it was interesting how penn brought up the whole freezer thing and how they put more animal’s down then they saved or something like that.
ReplyDeletePeople who work for PETA are dangerous and violent. Animals are not equal to humans. It is wrong to attack humans to save animals. Have you ever noticed that PETA people are really quick to throw paint on old ladies wearing fur coats, but have you ever seen them throwing paint at a biker bar where everybody is wearing leather? They are cowards.
ReplyDeleteThis episode was another favorite of mine. I am a huge animal lover, but by no means am I active or involved with PETA. Watching this episode was really sad. I hated watching the abuse of animals, I hate knowing that that is out there it makes me want to do more. I think it is great there are people out there actively trying to protect these animals, but the extreme measures that PETA goes to ARE cult like, and scary. I agree with the gal in class the other night that thought it was ridiculous that by PETA standards you shouldn't have a pet. I took my brothers cat for him when he moved because he could no longer have her. Had I not done that Jinx would be taken to Humane Society and put down if no one adopted her. Also I am pretty sure my dog Nia AND cat Jinx would tell you if they could that they would rather live with their people than fend for themselves. PETA is bullshit.
ReplyDeleteThis episode I learned a bit more about P.E.T.A's stand in what they believe. I am glad that they have been able to stop animal cruelty as far as pets go. I would never intentionally hurt a pet. I do not agree that all animals should be spared. I know that a lot of good has come from testing animals for medical purposes.
ReplyDeleteI believe that most of the animals I eat were put on this earth for that purpose. PETA has a whole world of protesting to do to save their friends. All over the world different cultures are killing animals for many different reasons; clothing, medicinal purposes, money; for their ivory and such. I don't agree with all of that, but that is what they know, so until they feel it is wrong PETA will be around till the earth stops turning. I also think the extreme members of PETA are crazy and need to spend more time making a positive difference in the world and less time being angry and hurting others. Maybe PETA will someday realize that if you stop killing animals they just might over populate and give us humans more than we can handle. It is the circle of life, we are the top of the food chain.
Humans needs take precedence over animals needs. I think it is more important to save a humans life than an animals. I don’t like the thought of factory farming and animal cruelty. If I find a spider in my house I will most often catch it and let it go out side instead of smashing it. I don’t like to hurt animals or see them suffer, but I think suffering is a part of life. I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing an animal for food, but I think it should be killed quickly and humanly. I think I would eat a lot less meat if I was the one who had to do the killing. From what the episode of BS showed PETA goes too far in protecting animal’s rights.
ReplyDeleteI think i liked this episode the most out of all of them because there were so many interesting facts they found out about PETA. When you first hear about PETA you think, good for those people who actually take the time to care for animals. because someone has to right? buy what you really find out is that they are not so good after all. they themselves kill animals in their own headquarters. and they support the violence and vandalism that the other animal rights group does(sorry cant remember the name) I think Penn and Teller hit the nail on the haid by saying they are all a bunch of hypocrits!!
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I think that P.E.T.A is rediculous. I think that animals should be treated humanly but what P.E.T.A calls for is crazy. I love hunting and I think that as long as you eat the meat and hunt wisely, their is nothing wrong with that. I believe that animals are put on this earth for the use of humans and that meat is a natural part of life. Does P.E.T.A want to stop a lion from eating a gazzell, because the gazzel might not like the idea. I think that is rediculous. In an article I was reading it was talking how P.E.T.A was trying to save a large herd of deer from a hazardous area, they loaded the deer in trailers and the stress of the ordeal made all the deer die. P.E.T.A might think they are doing good things for animals but they are going against the way of life.
ReplyDeleteThis episode of Bullshit was informative on P.E.T.A. It was interesting to find out how this organization was showering them selfs in how great they are with animals and how they should be liberated yet they them selfs kill animals AND hid it. What i can't understand is how so many people went along with it. It may be possible most of the people didn't know what was really going on. P.E.T.A to me is not worthy of trying to provide "better" for animals because they would go about all the wrong ways.
ReplyDeleteI've always been a meat-eater. I don't care how others feel about the subject, because i simply like my meat.
ReplyDeleteNow, being a meat-eater hasn't stopped me from understanding and being open-minded to the idea of being a vegetarian or vegan. I'm all for open choices and free will. However, i do not condone any radical approaches to the lifestyles mentioned. I believe i deserve to eat meat, just like vegans and vegetarians deserve to refuse to do the same. My choices should be respected also.
I realize that most PETA members are not as radical as those shown and portrayed. Penn and Teller are taking an extreme side to an issue, and I realized this going into the episode. To those that are radical activists though, I think its outrageous and should be put to an end.
One really funny thing I noticed in this episode was one of the activists getting arrested was wearing a fur coat. I think people can still eat meat and want to stop animal cruilty.
ReplyDeleteI am an avid hunter and hunting is a huge part of wildlife conservation. PETA thinks that hunting is cruel, however without hunting deer and elk and many other animals, they would be starving to death because there would be so many animals around that there wouldn't be enough food for all of them. Hunting isn't just a way to go have a good time and kill whatever you see, it is a huge part of wildlife conservation to help thin the numbers of the animals so i feel that it is a big part of the society not animal cruelty.
ReplyDeleteI learned a lot from this episode of Penn and Teller. They did a great job at presenting information on PETA. Before I seen this I didn't know what PETA really did other then they were against animal cruelty. After this episode I was amazed to learn some of the things PETA does. I don't like animal cruelty and i am against but PETA goes to far.
ReplyDeleteThose people from PETA obviously have not lived in a third world country, where homeless dogs could wonder around in the dark alleys and in big hurds and would bark and attack you when they are hungry. Nobody in such country would even think organization for animal right are practical or probable to succeed. Animals should never be put into equal positions as humans. I really think that animal liberation is neither desirable nor practical for the major population of the human race. The methods and persuasion that those organizations use are not Ethical according to what we had been presented by Penn and Teller. If these people would use their energy into more efficient way rather than harassing innocent people then animals would have better chance of living unharmed by humans in the wilderness. Of course not all of them would survive out there (especially little exotic animals like Chihuahuas and etc.), but that seems to slip from the overall viewpoint of ALF and PETA. Unlike humans animals do not have strongly developed sense of ethics or sympathy.
ReplyDeleteOver the years we have spent millions of dollars and man hours repenting for the way we have treated the indians of North America. We came in killed many of them, took them from there homelands and forced them to live the way our ancestors lived. Why did we do this? Because they were a conquered nation. They did not have the advance knowledge to stand up and fight for themselves. The relied on our knowledge and goodwill to treat them Humanly. This is similar to the animal population. I feel we are far superior to the animals in this nation and will continue to utilize these animals in a human way to further our way of life. I don't agree that we should pay a conquered nation, unless they were conquered under false pretense and I don't think we should pay for these animals. If we have them locked up and shelters and they begin to get over populated then we kill them. This helps them live human lives until they can be adopted out. Now we know the majority of these animals will be put to sleep, we just don't have space for them. But is this really as bad as PETA or ALF makes it sound? Should we release the animals to run in our streats similar to chicago where coyotes are venturing into the suburbs and forcing a increase in the human to animal contact. This sitution all falls on your perception. My perception is kill those little bastards and keep the human's way of life on pace.
ReplyDeleteThose PETA and AFL(?) people were crazy! I don't think that animals have the same rights as humans, and i don't think that there life/health should EVER be put before that of a Human. I thought it was interesting listening to the vegetarian couple in our class. They made a good point, and expressed their opinions very well, and i respect them for what they do. I thought it was interesting in our discussion on the profanity episode that it came up that when people use words such as freak, shoot, or darn, that it's like cheating, because "we all know what they really mean" I thought of this in the same way as substitute meats. A woman in our class talked about how the substitutes for meats 30 years ago are nothing compared to what they are now, and that her family members on some couldn’t even taste the difference. So, when an individual chooses to not eat meat, but they want their substitutes to taste like meat, so isn’t this just like cheating? They think it’s wrong to eat meat, but they want what they do eat to taste just like the real thing.
ReplyDeleteI think that PETA tend to exaggerate their issues a lot. I’m sure that most of their workers have had to use medicine tested on animals for something. Most of the medicine that is available now is thanks to the animals. What they want, “Liberation for all animals”, it’s just not possible now. New medicine should be tested on animals before humans, if they want to change that they should volunteer for the tests. I agree with their point on having wild animals as pets because they disserved better than to be in a cage.
ReplyDeleteI think that is great that we have organizations that stand up for the rights of animals. It is unfortunate that some of these organizations think that breaking the law will fix the problem. You can’t fix a deed with an evil deed even though sometimes it seems like that. I am not saying they should turn a blind eye when animals are suffering; just use different tactics to achieve their goal. I think we as a society in general take our meat source for granted and fail to know all the aspects of how the animals that provide the meat are treated. It’s important to remember that animals are living creatures and must be treated with respect.
ReplyDeleteI thing P.E.T.A. is a fake. All they do to grab attention is to set something on fire or harrass someone's family and that is not the way to do it. If you want to get a point across that is not the best way to aproach the situation. Don't get me wrong but I do believe in the fair treatment of animals. But when I hear news that someone had 50 or more animals in their home and are mistreated I do feel sad. Those people should get punished for what they do. Now on the issue of eating meat, I thing God put animals on this earth for a reason and in order for past generations to have survived they had to kill them to eat. If it weren't for them we wouldn't be here today.
ReplyDeleteI really liked this one. I consider myself to be a person who likes animals and I don't think it is right to be cruel to them. I do feel that human beings should take precedence over animals though so I am in favor of testing medical practices on animals. As was said in class though that can still be done in a humane way such as not spraying hair spray in an animals eyes. Just use common sense there! I do think how PETA tries to intimidate people, and become violent is not the way to fix things and just hurts their argument. I do have to mention just as a side note I thought what they said about PETA not wanting blind people to have dogs to guide them was hilarious and totally ridiculos. PETA's message means well, but they go about it in the wrong way.
ReplyDeleteI am all about animal rights and protecting animals if possible. But if you're willing to attack a person to save an animal then what are you saying about people's rights? I though it was very interesting that they stated people who belong to PETA can't own pets. I have a cat of my own that I saved from a neglectful home rather than it being sent to the humane society to possibly be put down. Is this saying that I am going against an animal's rights because I am keeping it safe?
ReplyDeleteI can't just bash on PETA though. I think it is like any other group or organization. There are always radicals that put a bad name on everything. I've never really looked into PETA so other than what I saw on this show I don't know anything. Which means I've only seen the bad stuff and I know that PETA does do good things as well we just weren't shown that. I think any person that decides they can judge what one life is worth over another is wrong. We are not God and shouldn't have the right to play God. I don't consider myself to be able to judge whether an animal's life or someone else's life is more important and I don't feel that anyone has that right.
The episode on PETA shows that some members of the PETA are dangerous and violent. I agree with people’s responsibility for their own animals but I don’t think they have the same right as a human. Controversy depends on how each person thinks and it is one’s concerning matter of opinion. It should be allowed to express what they think but the PETA seems to ignore other’s opinion. Any violent activity is not allowed between people and people. I appreciate that they have been able to save animal’s right but they will have to convince the people to find right way.
ReplyDeleteAnimals need to be able to live in safe enviroments and those that don't give them a safe enviroment needs to be held accountable. PETA is going about animal rights the wrong way. Violence never makes things right. It only adds to the problem. If we would to let every animal run free and do what every they want. We would have cats & dogs running every having kittens & puppies all over the place. Then we would have to clean up after them or live in their mess that they don't clean up after. After all they are animals not humans.
ReplyDeleteThis episode of Bullshit was very interesting, I am not a big follower of PETA and I didn't really understand why the members felt so strongly about animal rights and this episode helped with removing the veil. I do realize this is very one sided and that they are trying to portray PETA as being violent, but in certain aspects PETA is doing good. I personally believe that we must use animals to our advantage to survive, but we can't abuse our ability to do these things. Animal cruelty is still wrong and as the dominating race we need to take control and responsibility for our actions and the actions of others around us.
ReplyDeleteWhat a bunch of pansies. PETA is such a wierd group of people (sorry if you're a member and I just offended you). But wow, animals get treated wrong and you have to start all this for it, why not do the same thing for human. So many are treated unjustly especially outside of our country. Yea there are Human Rights Activist, but these PETA people are a lot more for their equal treatment of animals than the Activist for the human, could use that enthusiasm in the Human Rights section, why not joing them? Well anyways, the whole PETA campaign is weird. I mean getting that walk in freezer to store animals?? I thought you wanted equal treatment, you wouldn't store humans in there would you??? Then getting all pissed at the animal shelters that put animals to sleep, you're people did the same thing! What a bunch of hypocrites. Yes animals often get treated unjustly but look at the other side, there are so many more that get treated like Gods. Man how bout working equal treatment that way, provide me with food everyday, let me do whatever I want, let me control you with simple barks and scratches against' the door. Pft, PETA is a waste of effort.
ReplyDeletePETA is really strange to me. I understand that it is sad and sometimes cruel the way that some animals die to become our food, but it’s the way of life we are on top of the food chain for a reason. I enjoy meat to much to ever feel bad about eating meat, I know they have made things to be a substitute to meat but I rather eat the real thing. As long as we are not eating dogs or cats I'll be ok.
ReplyDeleteI am a person who has pets and love them. Even I like animals, I could not give up meats. I think it is different problem. Meats and vegetables are all foods for humans. Those are just foods. So, I can not understand the people who are member of P.E.T.A. I do not agree with them.
ReplyDeleteI don't care what people say but killing animal are illigal. That is really sad when we can't do anything when seeing them being kill by the hunter. Some of them got killed just because we need meat for our everday nutrition, but for some reason we don't eat bear, our mouses, so why we have to kill them? I saw some people eating dogs meat, I feel so mad, and I couln't stand those people, they are so cute to be eat by human. so I think the government need to have the law to protect them from being kill by the human.
ReplyDeleteAfter I watched this episode, I can be notified of P E T A. So, I consider about animal rights again. But I could find that they are kind of odd. They claim to be animal rights so, they do demonstrate in front of bunch of people. But, they have the wrong idea which uses violence to people for protecting animals. Think about that - it is something wrong. I think that their rights are also important, but humans are more important than they because I am human. I do not want to give up humans. I think no matter what violence cannot be permitted to people or animals. Everyone has different opinions : so we respect them for what they do. I want to try to say again : No violence. I hate that.
ReplyDeleteWhile I’m used to people seeing all vegetarians and animal activists as crazy people, it doesn’t make me appreciate it any more than I would if it were a new thing. There are certainly people out there who take things to an unhealthy extreme but that’s the same as with any group of people whether it’s religiously, politically, racially, etc. I’ve been a vegetarian animal activist for several years now and I don’t shove my views down people’s throats. I don’t get upset with people for eating meat or wearing leather. Would I prefer it if no one did? Sure. The world would be a healthier place and it would be so much better for the animals. I don’t try to convert people to my way of thinking unless they ask me to. This goes for animal rights, politics, religion, etc. and I don’t think it’s cool to lump all of us into one big group of extremist idiots!
ReplyDeletePeta has a good cause in trying to get commercially farmed animals treated humanely and better living conditions while they are alive. They lose all credibility when they say people should not have pets and no animals should be used for food.
ReplyDeleteFace it, if humans were not able to eat meat it is a good possibility there wouldn't be any humans on earth today. It's easy when you live in an urban society where all your fruits and vegetables and other meat alternatives are made for you. Try living away from society maybe in a shack in the mountains and growing enough fruits and vegetables and non-meat products to survive a brutal winter.
P.E.T.A., just like many other groups, has radical members. It’s important to be humane and kind to animals and if you feel you are making a difference by not eating meat, more power to you, but don’t hate the people (or bomb buildings) that do. As far as protesting in front of the humane society because they put lost and unwanted animals to sleep is ridiculous. It is less humane to let them live in a cage for the rest of their lives or go free. While I was in Greece, there were stray cats everywhere. Kittens who survived lived on the streets with flies in their eyes, skeletally thin digging through trash cans and living in the unbearable heat because Greece doesn’t have a government or state run humane society to neuter or capture the stray animals. There used to be stray dogs everywhere but they had to kill them all before the Olympics. Letting the population get that huge and then killing or letting them starve or get hit by cars is much crueler in my opinion.
ReplyDeletePETA is an organization that is against animal cruelty. The thing i saw that was most shocking is that they were involved in burning down that building, and people who are at the top of PETA are going against the things that they believe the most. Obviously in every organization there is some people that will not go with everything they believe, but when there is people at the very top that are doing wrong things then thats a problem. I think that if they have a problem with how animals are treated then they should not participate in that. But when you go to the extreme that PETA has then that is a big problem.
ReplyDeletethis issue is a very stange one for me because so many people are on both sides of the fence and can see both view points. it is hard for me to stand behind one of the sides because i love animals and dont feel it is right to kill them or in a in-humane way but at the same time we do need to survive and we do need to control there population( ie hunting). i feel there is a line that needs to be drawn but where? its different for everyone.
ReplyDeleteFor thousands of years, humans have been in the evolutionary cycle of eating meat. I personally believe it is a part of our human nature and that it should stay a part of it.
ReplyDeleteYes, I do feel terrible for those poor animals that get treated so awfully by their owners, and for those little baby chickens that only get to live a few days...But when it comes to my food, I'm not going to cut out the protein or deliciousness in my life as a result of that...I suppose I'm selfish in that way, but I can't help that.
PETA calls for "total animal liberation." In essence, no milk, no meat, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets of any kind, right? Try to imagine a life without all of those things...
And don't even get me started on that British PETA chair woman...Total psycho.
i can see where peta is coming from protecting those that can't protect themselves, but i think sometimes they take it way too far. im told that back in the day they used to throw red paint on people and call them murderers. wow really? i think it just boils back down to the whole issue of minding your own god damn business. if people want to hunt let them hunt, they have a license. what they need to do is go after poachers who are hunting illegal animals. dont go after people doing everything legit.
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