This episode was ironic to me. I thought it was cool that in order to prove the point they hired a contractor who then hired illegal immigrants to build a fence to mimic the one on the Mexican border which keeps immigrants out. I think that our border policies are ok, but with better deportation laws I think the control on these borders could be handled better by the government.
I think Penn & Teller’s Bullshit episode on immigration has effect the government of the United States of America because people from other counties are trespassing through the United States without permission who the government. I think that the reasons why immigrates wants to come to the America is to get a better job, better education for their children or just want to work so they save up the money to sent it back to their family that still living back in their country. I think that the government building the fences that cost $60 billion dollars along the Mexican border is not a wise idea because they just can get through the fence easy. I think the government should use that money to helped the country out because why waste money building a fence that doesn’t do anything.
This episode I completely agree with, I do believe that the immigration problem is getting worse. I really don’t like the fact that they come here by jumping a stupid wall that was supposed to keep them out and take our jobs. I am not saying that I hate the people that do this I just hate that they do it, I don’t see why it is so hard to grasp papers and visa it is really not hard to understand, and yes I do know that it is a lot of money to get these things but it still does not make it right. I thought that it was kind of funny to see the illegal people build a wall and then see how they get through it. It just goes to show that they will do anything for a couple bucks or just to stay here.
Sometimes I think it is no wonder so many countries hate Americans. We can be utterly selfish and wasteful. I was floored when I learned how much our government wanted to fork over on a stupid fence. I found it hillarious how easily they broke through it, and think if our government can't see what a big waste somthing like that is then they are on crack. I think our country has plenty of room, the United States was built from Immigrants coming here, I mean if you want to get technical aren't we the white man immigrants too?
Immigration has become a problem in the U.S. but building a fence isn't going to stop anything, as demonstrated in this episode. After building the fence the immigrants were able to get through in 3 minutes, and so we are spending millions of dollars on a 3 minute detour. I know that immigrants come here with good intentions and that they want to support their families and make a better life for themselves, but i wish they could do it legally. I wish that the immigrants who came here would have pride for the U.S. which is the country they are living in, i don't want them to give up their cultural background, i just don't want them to complain about the U.S. when they have decided to live here instead of their home country. I also think that immigrants should learn English. The majority here speaks english, and they should have to learn it. We have learned to give latino immigrants a crutch by letting them press two for spanish, where if we made them struggle through English they would learn the language a lot quicker. I think this Episode had some good points, and I learned some interesting things about immigration.
I liked this episode the best of all. The fence was so funny. I especially like how he said something like it took most they day to build and so much money and 3 min to get through. I don’t get the concept of trying to fence humans out. Dogs can figure out how to dig a hole under a fence. What makes any one with a brain think a human is not capable of getting around a non-patrolled fence? I honestly don’t know much about immigration, but it is not hard to agree that a fence is not the greatest idea
I thought this episode was pretty funny. How they Hired illegals to build a replica fence of the one on the U.S. Mexico boarder. It made me a little upset to find out how much of our tax payers dollars went into building this pathetic little fence, and for what? To give the boarder jumpers a five minute delay? I think we could come up with something more dependable than that. also how the company that built the fence had tons of illegals working for them then got busted. That was funny! Seth K.
Immigration is not a problem here, but illegal immigration certainly is. People can come here for a better life, and that is great. But starting off the “better life” by illegally crossing the border is not acceptable. A fence isn’t going to fix anything. But, what other alternatives are there? Something has to be done, and no one can think of a better idea. The fence part was really funny though. I mean, it’s really ironic that the people that the government is trying to keep out are the people that would be building the fence. This is a complex problem with no good solution.
I thought this episode had strong arguments supporting immigration but had really weak arguments supporting illegal immigration. I thought it was ironic how they had the illegal immigrants build the fence and then climb over it, dig under it, and bust their way through it. I respect the people who came to this country searching for a better life, became citizens then worked their butt off to be a happy individual in America today. Allowing total immigration is not the answer. If everyone would go through the system and become citizens then we would not have this problem. Immigration is fine but illegal immigration is not.
This topic of Bullshit is surely going to envoke serious, emotional responses. The idea of illegal immigration and all aspects is a moot point, but that does not stop many from fighting for what they believe in.
All arguments aside, I do not agree with illegal immigration. I do not feel that anyone should have the right to walk into America when he or she chooses. If someone wants to come to America, that person should do it legally. It may take a long time to obtain the papers necessary and finish the application process, but i know many that have successfully done just that. It's not an impossible task.
When illegal immigrants come to America illegally, they do take the jobs that many are not willing to work, and that boosts Americas economy, but they also hinder the programs and acts already in motion. Specifically, illegal immigrants are a cause for concern when it comes to healthcare. As America battles with the concept of socialized medicine, immigrants are swaying the statistics for the dooming proposal. Many illegal immigrants do not have healthcare, and therefore are not helping the situation. I am aware that insurance and healthcare is an expensive problem of its own, but that should not be an excuse for what is morally right and wrong.
I do not like to be the bearer of bad news, but i simply don't feel that illegal immigration is a benefit. I'm all for immigrants obtaining their rights to live in America, the land of the free, but they should do it legally.
This is kinda a hard subject. People say they want to stop illegals from entering the country and I agree. But most illegals mind there own business and go about day to day. I just think they should have to learn our language. Now with that said, the ones that break the law and are not citizens do not have the same rights under our constitution. They need to be sent to jail and then instead of being released back on the streets we deport them. If you are illegal you should not be able to receive government help like welfare etc.
illegal imigration is a huge problem in the U.S. however by building a huge fence that doesn't even span the entire border will not keep out the immigrants as you could see on this episode it only took the illegal's a matter of minutes to get through and took an entire day to build and it was only about a 10 foot section. There is a lot of better ways to spend that money to handle the immigration problem.
The subject of immigration and more specifically the illegal immigration is very broad and interesting. I myself walked through this road and am not very proud I had to work illegally for 2 years so I can manage to pay for my stay here. Unlike other I did came here with work visa, which I tried to extend but unsuccessfully because the government makes it difficult. I liked the part, where they showed that a wall on the boarder will not have any major effect and will only slow the immigrants down. Who needs this wall anyways, when pretty soon, United states, Mexico and Canada will form the North American Union and it will become obsolete. This may be only rumor, but I believe it will happen whether we like it or not. I do not really know how can illegal immigrants get welfare help or Medicare if they do not have any documents for identity or even social security card. I haven't personally tried but I know the institutions must be aware of this problem and have developed a process to prevent this from happening. I believe that immigration is good for any country because it makes it more diverse. The whole country of USA was initially founded by immigrants from Europe. Do you think that the native Americans even think of building a wall on the seashore to prevent them from coming? They welcomed the newcomers and offered food...
I thought this episode was pretty funny and entertaining. I think this topic and issue will always be around. we are the melting pot country so i think we sound have immigration but not to the point were at now. I found the whole fence thing dumb. the government is building this fence that is going to cost tons and it if just going to be destroyed.
I'd agree the fence is a rediculous solution. If we were serious about securing our borders then we have more than enough military personal to do the job. In Isreal one soldier mans a camera which attached to a 50cal machine gun. If I remember correctly on soldier can man up to 4 of these machine gun camera's. So if we were serious about securing our borders then we would look at nations that have secured their borders. Similar to how we have stepped up our services at the airports with TSA. TSA is still something to laugh at but they have improved from day 1. There operations has picked up a few practices from countries that have been under siege of foriegn attack, but our countries population is not quite ready to accept the reality that we are a vulnerable nation. I don't think we will seriously place barriers in our countries to stop the inflow of immigration or terrorist, until the problem is so out of country we are consumed from the inside out.
My opinion on immigration is that there are too many flaws in the system which causes a lot of issues. There are many cons and pros to immigration to be covered; in the end I think we should try to understand each other. These lands once belonged to the Native Americans. They were here before anybody and I think we should show other nationalities respect. I once had the opportunity to listen to a Cheyenne and a Navajo elder, saying to a Hispanic and to a white guy, the way you are fighting about this land was never European and Hispanic either. I have to admit that they were right.
Immigration has always been a heated argument in our nation. It’s hard for people to step outside of their protective box and venture into another culture. We will always have immigrants to our country. We have a serious problem with mounting illegal immigrants. The problem will only get worse, it needs attention now. I think border patrols are necessary because we deport illegals that commit crimes back to their country and if it’s easy for them to come back. What is stopping them?
Yes I do agree that immigration is getting out of hand but there are perfectly good reasons why. Immigrants come to this country because they don't want their families to starve and die in their own countries. Most people come here to work and they don't harm anyone. But there are some that come here and they violate laws and those people ruin it for the other ones that are here being good citizens. Those should be punished and taken back to their original country. What really gets to me is that alot of people comment that immigrants are "stealing" American jobs.They are not stealing them they take jobs that Americans don't want to work in. On the other hand government is stealling from immigrants because they get taxes taken away from their paychecks which they can't claim and they don't say anything about that. You don't see housekeepers in hotels or construction workers that are American. You see immigrants doing those jobs that Americans don't want or are to lazy to do. You also see Americans using and abusing immigrants by paying them lower that minimum wage to do jobs quickly and nobody helps them out. If the government wants immigration to stop they should allow them to be here legally and then you will see less people coming across the border. but of course there will always be immigrants coming to live a better life.That way the government will stop spending 60 million dollars in a fence that can be destroyed in less than 5 minutes. that money could have been used for other important things like education or healthcare for the million of unisured people that are sick and can't afford to get healthcare.
I don't think immigration is as big a dealas most people make it out to be. I don't feel like because there are immigrants in the country that I am losing out on job and school opportunities. I feel like I always have many people to compete against and I just have to be the best I can be. I do think it is stupid for the government to spend 60$ bllion on a fence. They I guess were just buckling under the pressure of people screaming to get that done. Now, on the other hand I feel like it is totally unfair for some immigrants to go through all the pain to fill out all the paperwork, go through interviews, and pay tons of money to be here legally and then have others who just stay here illegally. That is not right. It may be a tough process to go through, but if some do it then all should do it. If you want to be here bad enough then take the steps to be here.
After watching this episode it is so damn frustrating to know that millions of dollars are spent on programs that don't work. What a waste of tax payers money to put up a fence that clearly is not going to stop any determined immigrant to get here. I know that something should be done but a fence is not the solution. I know that what America offers immigrants is enticing but all the same it is still illegal to come here without the proper steps taken first. I don't have a problem with people coming here I think they need to do it the honest way. Sure they can make more money here in a day then they can in their own country, but it is not the United States responsibilty. I am sure they will keep coming and someone will keep sending them back. They come here from horrible circumstances to make enough money to take care of their families. I don't know what the solution is but a fence costing millions of dollars is not it.
I feel like if our government solved some problems within the country for the people already here than a lot of our problems would dissipate. I think the idea of spending millions of dollars on a fence is ridiculous. Fences have never kept people out and never will. I'm pretty sure that if border patrol people with actual guns can't keep people out then a fence definitely wont. I've known plenty of immigrants that come here legally and do what they need to to become a citizen and they have great pride in that. I feel like if someone truly wants to live in this great nation then they have to show it by BECOMING a part of this great nation. So many people say that they take the jobs no one else will so it's ok but how can we possibly know that when those jobs aren't even available for citizens to even look into getting because they are already taken by illegal immigrants. I also know plenty of people that are out of work right now that would be happy to clean toilets if it meant a job. So I think that is just an excuse made by people who are illegals and those that know them. If you want it bad enough then do the work to earn it. People that were born here do it everyday by paying their taxes, supporting their government and their people, and standing up for their country rather than waiving some other country's flag just because we aren't 100% satisfied with what is going on. I'm proud of my English and Welsh heritage but I am also an American above all else. If you want to be an American act like it.
I think the episode on immigration is important to know for Americans. The problem first came up long times ago. But the time has passed away too long. So I think that the solution for immigration problem should shelter illegal immigrants who have already been in America. Casting them out of the U.S is not only the way to resolve the problem. The U.S has become the strongest country in the world, so we’d better to keep pace with them and then we will have to plan for future.
what needs to happen is something that i don't think any one realy knows what to do. But we need to do something. My parents came here aobut 50 years ago and had to go through the steps to be here legaly. That way they are able to enjoy the perks of being an American citizen. Right now we have millions that are illegal and are enjoying the perks of an American citizen but they aren't citizens at all. This is down right wrong and needs to be fixed.
Man this episode made me laugh, five min! that's it! HAH, what a waste of our money. Come on US gov't a wall never stopped anyone if that person really really wanted to get across. I'm not saying we gotta be like jails though that have patrols and sensors and all that, hah that would be even more of a waste of money. What I am saying is stop all the attempts to stop illegal immigration because it'll keep on coming; IT won't stop. What needs to be done is not something I'm fully knowledgeable in, but it seems to me that we need to increase or educational system, get better teaching ethics and provide faster teaching methods. What's worse denying a persons unalienable rights, or spending money to help an individual get an education that will better help them survive in this life? I would certainly not mind giving up money, even if I don't have any. Helping eachother rather than degrading some is definitely worth it. Yes, there are time where the illegals really deserve deportation. They do things that are ridiculous and offensive but hey, don't we already have that in our non-illegal society. Our American's do something bad and we don't give such a fuss, but when an illegal does it OH MAN GOTTA DO SOMETHING!!! Pft, just stop bickering and complaining. So he takes your job, so what, there's a reason why he was chosen above you. If its due to Affirmitive Action and you're better qualified or if the company chose him just because he works for less, that's wrong, but that's a problem with our society not theirs it's not like he can change what that business thinks anymore than you can. We shouldn't get angry at them but rather our own manipulated government. All in all, both societies have problems, ours having more. We all need to learn to not hate but appreciate; help eachother succeed not prevent one's success to allow your own, that's hecka messed. Oh, and we DON'T need to spend a ridiculous amount of money for a wall, that's plain STUPID!
Immigration is a problem that we have in the U.S., but spending $60 Billion on a fence that can't live up to the purpose it was built for. If it only takes 3 minutes for an immigrant to get through a fence it took them all day to build then there is definitely something wrong with that picture. I feel that most immigrants don't just cross the border illegally but instead use travel visas and student visas to get into the country and then they instead of working to renew the visa or they just plain don't care and then continue to live in the country illegally and take advantage of government programs that are meant to help out the actual citizens of this country that pay taxes and need this help to survive.
Immigration is a touchy subject for me. My parents as well as many other who I personally know are immigrants. I believe others should visit a third world before they begin with their (what I call remarks). Many don't know or can even imagine what immigrants go through. Having to hide in order to protect they struggle to give a better life to their families, pay taxes without being a able to receive a dime in return, working under a scorching sun while picking fruit, (something many Americans would NOT do) for the amount of dollar they receive. All of this to try and provide a better life for their family.
I've personally have heard immigrants are taking up jobs,government funded programs like medicaid, and top it of are violent delinquents. I ask my self; Will an American clean toilets, get on their hands and knees to scrub floors,work under hard physical labor? I'm not saying they"re aren't ANY who will, but I do know the majority won't.
What is going on with that immigrants taking for ex: medicaid away? Last i checked they go through the same process and have the same requirements that any other people do. I can't deny their are many immigrant's children are on government funded programs and why wouldn't they? Their parents are working in anything they can get their hands on to provide bread.
What about those good paying jobs immigrants take? Well, people see how jobs are and figure out see hoe easy jobs are. Many are used to dirty hard labor, yet coming here people see how easy jobs can be. Jobs are all around but people need strive for what they want.
Violence is another subject that comes across as something bad immigrants do. I know their are many out their and they do give the rest a bad reputation. What I don't understand is why others of the same race are being measured with that same ruler? Should we point a finger at others who commit crimes of other races? Many if not all come for a better life yet their are those who choose that path that ends up in jail. I'm not defending them because I believe in justice. I will always be for immigrants who strive for a better life and come here to become a better life..
It is true that the immigration problem is getting bigger even changing immigration laws and it happened very long time ago. I think there are not perfect solutions. But in this video, I could not understand that the U.S. government spends a lot of money for defense them every year. It could be one of solution for this illegal immigration problem but not the answer. I think the U.S.’s government should be found a fundamental problem and change the law more conciliatory to illegal immigrations who are in the U.S. now.
so when I heard about immigration I think about me, yes, i'm immigration from vietnam, however i'm a legal immigration not like the others. In this video I found out that the goverment still couldn'd control those illigal immigration, because we could see how easy those illigal immigration broke the protect fench and got to US. I think the government really need to do something to stop this problem. So those people can't pass the country. Think about this, when they come to the US, they don't have any education what can they do beside the illigal job. I understand that because of the family living that's make them no choice. However, illigal means illigal they need to go back to where they are, unless they have the paper work.
I am not an American citizen, but I just want to try to say it. When I watched this episode, it expresses a strong message about the government. I think there are a lot of illegal immigrants in the U.S. I knew about that, and they make some problems in here. I think that is true. So, the U.S government tries to build a wall at their border line. I think it will cost a lot of money which is probably taxes. Even though it is built barrier, immigrants are stopped the inflow in here. Also, problems are still going on. I think that will be a stupid thing. Before they do that, they have to think very carefully about other policies. That is the responsibility to the U.S government. And then I barely think about that if a Native American watches this one, they might jeer at it.
Immigration was something our nation was founded on and has always faced as a problem. Earlier in history it was Irish, later Chinese, and now Mexican among many others who Americans had a problem against. Spending tax paying dollars to build a giant stretch of wall when an immigrant can just get a passport and let it expire, is a complete waste of time, money, work and materials. I do not think they should, but they will find a way to live here if it is going to help their families, their lives, and get them the freedom they couldn’t have in their country. This is, after all, the American dream.
I was glad to find myself in total agreement with Penn and Teller on this one! It really is nice to know that I’m not the only one who would like to open the doors to our country and welcome people in. If we weren’t so restrictive, people wouldn’t have to sneak it. They could come in legally and be better contributors to our society because they wouldn’t have to hide the fact that they are a part of it. Almost none of us would be here today if it weren’t for our families emigrating here however many years ago, or even today.
I love our country and I think it would be even better if people could come here more freely. Sure, there would be not-so-great people that would come along with all of the really good ones, but it’s not like we take all of our domestic bad guys and send them out of the country. Most of the evil felons that we have here are home-grown. And the guys that did the 9/11 attacks were here legally.
Most people immigrating to America come here to work, support their family, and create a better life. Yes, as with everything there are exceptions to the rule and the lawbreakers or people causing trouble should be detained and sent back to Mexican authorities.
Remember, it was less than two hundred years ago that America became a country. Unless you are full blood Native American someone in your family was an immigrant and had to struggle to travel to the US so they can make a better life for themselves. The US government definitely underestimates the intelligence of your average immigrant when they build the billion dollar fences on the border. The immigrants can easily get across the fence making the US government look completely foolish for using our resources in this way.
Immigration is getting worse and worse. The fact is, is that immigration is a problem, and that people are coming in from other countries illegally. I think everyone would agree that most of the illegal immigrants are coming from Mexico. There is some pros and cons to having illegal immigrants. Everyone mostly just focuses on the cons. The cons are is that illegals are stealing our jobs and crowding our living places. But what we never look at is the pros. How would we get people to work for us for so cheap? And by having illegals work for us we get things done for a lot cheaper. Having illegals help us in a way. Even though its hard to see these illegals stealing some of our jobs but when we think about it they are helping us.
Immigration is a touchy subject because that's what all of our country consist of. We all came over here as immigrants, so I don't feel like it is fair for us to say that no more immigrants are welcome in the United States. It's where all of the opportunities are and also where families want to raise their children, i understand that part but when they come over illegally nothing bothers me more. But the wall they are building around the Mexican border is a joke, no matter what type of wall or fence the US puts up they will always find away around it or through it so we shouldn't spend the time or money. If they come here legally I say the more the merrier.
immigration i feel will always be a problem as long as we live in the land of the free. of course we have people trying to come to this great counrty... wouldn't you? i mean i have no problem with people coming from where ever to work hard and support there families. i feel the best man should get the job. the only problem i have with immigration is alot of illegal immigrants dont pay taxes which falls back onto the people that do pay taxes. i also feel that if your going to come here then be a productive member of society don't sit your lazy ass on a corner and sell drugs or cause our crime rate to increase. if they want to do this then they can remain in their contries they came from.
I'm totally on the fence about this issue...Most illegal immigrants want to come to the United States because they know there are jobs available for them for little pay, because they'll settle for anything when it comes to trying to raise their kids and providing a healthy lifestyle. I believe that's great motivation for coming here, and that if they want that, they deserve it.
However, I'm an immigrant - I came here from Bosnia & Herzegovina eleven years ago, and my parents went through hell when it came to the application and testing processes. So in a way, I believe that if you want to come here form another country, you might as well come here fairly, and go through everything to be able to stay here for as long as you want, and build an immigration-worry-free lifestyle for you and those you care about.
This episode was great...It taught me a lot...But I've seen better.
This episode was ironic to me. I thought it was cool that in order to prove the point they hired a contractor who then hired illegal immigrants to build a fence to mimic the one on the Mexican border which keeps immigrants out. I think that our border policies are ok, but with better deportation laws I think the control on these borders could be handled better by the government.
ReplyDeleteI think Penn & Teller’s Bullshit episode on immigration has effect the government of the United States of America because people from other counties are trespassing through the United States without permission who the government. I think that the reasons why immigrates wants to come to the America is to get a better job, better education for their children or just want to work so they save up the money to sent it back to their family that still living back in their country. I think that the government building the fences that cost $60 billion dollars along the Mexican border is not a wise idea because they just can get through the fence easy. I think the government should use that money to helped the country out because why waste money building a fence that doesn’t do anything.
ReplyDeleteThis episode I completely agree with, I do believe that the immigration problem is getting worse. I really don’t like the fact that they come here by jumping a stupid wall that was supposed to keep them out and take our jobs. I am not saying that I hate the people that do this I just hate that they do it, I don’t see why it is so hard to grasp papers and visa it is really not hard to understand, and yes I do know that it is a lot of money to get these things but it still does not make it right. I thought that it was kind of funny to see the illegal people build a wall and then see how they get through it. It just goes to show that they will do anything for a couple bucks or just to stay here.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I think it is no wonder so many countries hate Americans. We can be utterly selfish and wasteful. I was floored when I learned how much our government wanted to fork over on a stupid fence. I found it hillarious how easily they broke through it, and think if our government can't see what a big waste somthing like that is then they are on crack. I think our country has plenty of room, the United States was built from Immigrants coming here, I mean if you want to get technical aren't we the white man immigrants too?
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ReplyDeleteImmigration has become a problem in the U.S. but building a fence isn't going to stop anything, as demonstrated in this episode. After building the fence the immigrants were able to get through in 3 minutes, and so we are spending millions of dollars on a 3 minute detour. I know that immigrants come here with good intentions and that they want to support their families and make a better life for themselves, but i wish they could do it legally. I wish that the immigrants who came here would have pride for the U.S. which is the country they are living in, i don't want them to give up their cultural background, i just don't want them to complain about the U.S. when they have decided to live here instead of their home country. I also think that immigrants should learn English. The majority here speaks english, and they should have to learn it. We have learned to give latino immigrants a crutch by letting them press two for spanish, where if we made them struggle through English they would learn the language a lot quicker. I think this Episode had some good points, and I learned some interesting things about immigration.
ReplyDeleteI liked this episode the best of all. The fence was so funny. I especially like how he said something like it took most they day to build and so much money and 3 min to get through. I don’t get the concept of trying to fence humans out. Dogs can figure out how to dig a hole under a fence. What makes any one with a brain think a human is not capable of getting around a non-patrolled fence? I honestly don’t know much about immigration, but it is not hard to agree that a fence is not the greatest idea
ReplyDeleteI thought this episode was pretty funny. How they Hired illegals to build a replica fence of the one on the U.S. Mexico boarder. It made me a little upset to find out how much of our tax payers dollars went into building this pathetic little fence, and for what? To give the boarder jumpers a five minute delay? I think we could come up with something more dependable than that. also how the company that built the fence had tons of illegals working for them then got busted. That was funny!
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Immigration is not a problem here, but illegal immigration certainly is. People can come here for a better life, and that is great. But starting off the “better life” by illegally crossing the border is not acceptable. A fence isn’t going to fix anything. But, what other alternatives are there? Something has to be done, and no one can think of a better idea. The fence part was really funny though. I mean, it’s really ironic that the people that the government is trying to keep out are the people that would be building the fence. This is a complex problem with no good solution.
ReplyDeleteI thought this episode had strong arguments supporting immigration but had really weak arguments supporting illegal immigration. I thought it was ironic how they had the illegal immigrants build the fence and then climb over it, dig under it, and bust their way through it. I respect the people who came to this country searching for a better life, became citizens then worked their butt off to be a happy individual in America today. Allowing total immigration is not the answer. If everyone would go through the system and become citizens then we would not have this problem. Immigration is fine but illegal immigration is not.
ReplyDeleteThis topic of Bullshit is surely going to envoke serious, emotional responses. The idea of illegal immigration and all aspects is a moot point, but that does not stop many from fighting for what they believe in.
ReplyDeleteAll arguments aside, I do not agree with illegal immigration. I do not feel that anyone should have the right to walk into America when he or she chooses. If someone wants to come to America, that person should do it legally. It may take a long time to obtain the papers necessary and finish the application process, but i know many that have successfully done just that. It's not an impossible task.
When illegal immigrants come to America illegally, they do take the jobs that many are not willing to work, and that boosts Americas economy, but they also hinder the programs and acts already in motion. Specifically, illegal immigrants are a cause for concern when it comes to healthcare. As America battles with the concept of socialized medicine, immigrants are swaying the statistics for the dooming proposal. Many illegal immigrants do not have healthcare, and therefore are not helping the situation. I am aware that insurance and healthcare is an expensive problem of its own, but that should not be an excuse for what is morally right and wrong.
I do not like to be the bearer of bad news, but i simply don't feel that illegal immigration is a benefit. I'm all for immigrants obtaining their rights to live in America, the land of the free, but they should do it legally.
This is kinda a hard subject. People say they want to stop illegals from entering the country and I agree. But most illegals mind there own business and go about day to day. I just think they should have to learn our language. Now with that said, the ones that break the law and are not citizens do not have the same rights under our constitution. They need to be sent to jail and then instead of being released back on the streets we deport them. If you are illegal you should not be able to receive government help like welfare etc.
ReplyDeleteillegal imigration is a huge problem in the U.S. however by building a huge fence that doesn't even span the entire border will not keep out the immigrants as you could see on this episode it only took the illegal's a matter of minutes to get through and took an entire day to build and it was only about a 10 foot section. There is a lot of better ways to spend that money to handle the immigration problem.
ReplyDeleteThe subject of immigration and more specifically the illegal immigration is very broad and interesting. I myself walked through this road and am not very proud I had to work illegally for 2 years so I can manage to pay for my stay here. Unlike other I did came here with work visa, which I tried to extend but unsuccessfully because the government makes it difficult. I liked the part, where they showed that a wall on the boarder will not have any major effect and will only slow the immigrants down. Who needs this wall anyways, when pretty soon, United states, Mexico and Canada will form the North American Union and it will become obsolete. This may be only rumor, but I believe it will happen whether we like it or not. I do not really know how can illegal immigrants get welfare help or Medicare if they do not have any documents for identity or even social security card. I haven't personally tried but I know the institutions must be aware of this problem and have developed a process to prevent this from happening. I believe that immigration is good for any country because it makes it more diverse. The whole country of USA was initially founded by immigrants from Europe. Do you think that the native Americans even think of building a wall on the seashore to prevent them from coming? They welcomed the newcomers and offered food...
ReplyDeleteI thought this episode was pretty funny and entertaining. I think this topic and issue will always be around. we are the melting pot country so i think we sound have immigration but not to the point were at now. I found the whole fence thing dumb. the government is building this fence that is going to cost tons and it if just going to be destroyed.
ReplyDeleteI'd agree the fence is a rediculous solution. If we were serious about securing our borders then we have more than enough military personal to do the job. In Isreal one soldier mans a camera which attached to a 50cal machine gun. If I remember correctly on soldier can man up to 4 of these machine gun camera's. So if we were serious about securing our borders then we would look at nations that have secured their borders. Similar to how we have stepped up our services at the airports with TSA. TSA is still something to laugh at but they have improved from day 1. There operations has picked up a few practices from countries that have been under siege of foriegn attack, but our countries population is not quite ready to accept the reality that we are a vulnerable nation. I don't think we will seriously place barriers in our countries to stop the inflow of immigration or terrorist, until the problem is so out of country we are consumed from the inside out.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on immigration is that there are too many flaws in the system which causes a lot of issues. There are many cons and pros to immigration to be covered; in the end I think we should try to understand each other. These lands once belonged to the Native Americans. They were here before anybody and I think we should show other nationalities respect. I once had the opportunity to listen to a Cheyenne and a Navajo elder, saying to a Hispanic and to a white guy, the way you are fighting about this land was never European and Hispanic either. I have to admit that they were right.
ReplyDeleteImmigration has always been a heated argument in our nation. It’s hard for people to step outside of their protective box and venture into another culture. We will always have immigrants to our country. We have a serious problem with mounting illegal immigrants. The problem will only get worse, it needs attention now. I think border patrols are necessary because we deport illegals that commit crimes back to their country and if it’s easy for them to come back. What is stopping them?
ReplyDeleteYes I do agree that immigration is getting out of hand but there are perfectly good reasons why. Immigrants come to this country because they don't want their families to starve and die in their own countries. Most people come here to work and they don't harm anyone. But there are some that come here and they violate laws and those people ruin it for the other ones that are here being good citizens. Those should be punished and taken back to their original country. What really gets to me is that alot of people comment that immigrants are "stealing" American jobs.They are not stealing them they take jobs that Americans don't want to work in. On the other hand government is stealling from immigrants because they get taxes taken away from their paychecks which they can't claim and they don't say anything about that. You don't see housekeepers in hotels or construction workers that are American. You see immigrants doing those jobs that Americans don't want or are to lazy to do. You also see Americans using and abusing immigrants by paying them lower that minimum wage to do jobs quickly and nobody helps them out. If the government wants immigration to stop they should allow them to be here legally and then you will see less people coming across the border. but of course there will always be immigrants coming to live a better life.That way the government will stop spending 60 million dollars in a fence that can be destroyed in less than 5 minutes. that money could have been used for other important things like education or healthcare for the million of unisured people that are sick and can't afford to get healthcare.
ReplyDeleteI don't think immigration is as big a dealas most people make it out to be. I don't feel like because there are immigrants in the country that I am losing out on job and school opportunities. I feel like I always have many people to compete against and I just have to be the best I can be. I do think it is stupid for the government to spend 60$ bllion on a fence. They I guess were just buckling under the pressure of people screaming to get that done. Now, on the other hand I feel like it is totally unfair for some immigrants to go through all the pain to fill out all the paperwork, go through interviews, and pay tons of money to be here legally and then have others who just stay here illegally. That is not right. It may be a tough process to go through, but if some do it then all should do it. If you want to be here bad enough then take the steps to be here.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching this episode it is so damn frustrating to know that millions of dollars are spent on programs that don't work. What a waste of tax payers money to put up a fence that clearly is not going to stop any determined immigrant to get here. I know that something should be done but a fence is not the solution. I know that what America offers immigrants is enticing but all the same it is still illegal to come here without the proper steps taken first. I don't have a problem with people coming here I think they need to do it the honest way. Sure they can make more money here in a day then they can in their own country, but it is not the United States responsibilty. I am sure they will keep coming and someone will keep sending them back. They come here from horrible circumstances to make enough money to take care of their families. I don't know what the solution is but a fence costing millions of dollars is not it.
ReplyDeleteI feel like if our government solved some problems within the country for the people already here than a lot of our problems would dissipate. I think the idea of spending millions of dollars on a fence is ridiculous. Fences have never kept people out and never will. I'm pretty sure that if border patrol people with actual guns can't keep people out then a fence definitely wont. I've known plenty of immigrants that come here legally and do what they need to to become a citizen and they have great pride in that. I feel like if someone truly wants to live in this great nation then they have to show it by BECOMING a part of this great nation. So many people say that they take the jobs no one else will so it's ok but how can we possibly know that when those jobs aren't even available for citizens to even look into getting because they are already taken by illegal immigrants. I also know plenty of people that are out of work right now that would be happy to clean toilets if it meant a job. So I think that is just an excuse made by people who are illegals and those that know them. If you want it bad enough then do the work to earn it. People that were born here do it everyday by paying their taxes, supporting their government and their people, and standing up for their country rather than waiving some other country's flag just because we aren't 100% satisfied with what is going on. I'm proud of my English and Welsh heritage but I am also an American above all else. If you want to be an American act like it.
ReplyDeleteI think the episode on immigration is important to know for Americans. The problem first came up long times ago. But the time has passed away too long. So I think that the solution for immigration problem should shelter illegal immigrants who have already been in America. Casting them out of the U.S is not only the way to resolve the problem. The U.S has become the strongest country in the world, so we’d better to keep pace with them and then we will have to plan for future.
ReplyDeletewhat needs to happen is something that i don't think any one realy knows what to do. But we need to do something. My parents came here aobut 50 years ago and had to go through the steps to be here legaly. That way they are able to enjoy the perks of being an American citizen. Right now we have millions that are illegal and are enjoying the perks of an American citizen but they aren't citizens at all. This is down right wrong and needs to be fixed.
ReplyDeleteMan this episode made me laugh, five min! that's it! HAH, what a waste of our money. Come on US gov't a wall never stopped anyone if that person really really wanted to get across. I'm not saying we gotta be like jails though that have patrols and sensors and all that, hah that would be even more of a waste of money. What I am saying is stop all the attempts to stop illegal immigration because it'll keep on coming; IT won't stop. What needs to be done is not something I'm fully knowledgeable in, but it seems to me that we need to increase or educational system, get better teaching ethics and provide faster teaching methods. What's worse denying a persons unalienable rights, or spending money to help an individual get an education that will better help them survive in this life? I would certainly not mind giving up money, even if I don't have any. Helping eachother rather than degrading some is definitely worth it. Yes, there are time where the illegals really deserve deportation. They do things that are ridiculous and offensive but hey, don't we already have that in our non-illegal society. Our American's do something bad and we don't give such a fuss, but when an illegal does it OH MAN GOTTA DO SOMETHING!!! Pft, just stop bickering and complaining. So he takes your job, so what, there's a reason why he was chosen above you. If its due to Affirmitive Action and you're better qualified or if the company chose him just because he works for less, that's wrong, but that's a problem with our society not theirs it's not like he can change what that business thinks anymore than you can. We shouldn't get angry at them but rather our own manipulated government. All in all, both societies have problems, ours having more. We all need to learn to not hate but appreciate; help eachother succeed not prevent one's success to allow your own, that's hecka messed. Oh, and we DON'T need to spend a ridiculous amount of money for a wall, that's plain STUPID!
ReplyDeleteImmigration is a problem that we have in the U.S., but spending $60 Billion on a fence that can't live up to the purpose it was built for. If it only takes 3 minutes for an immigrant to get through a fence it took them all day to build then there is definitely something wrong with that picture. I feel that most immigrants don't just cross the border illegally but instead use travel visas and student visas to get into the country and then they instead of working to renew the visa or they just plain don't care and then continue to live in the country illegally and take advantage of government programs that are meant to help out the actual citizens of this country that pay taxes and need this help to survive.
ReplyDeleteImmigration is a touchy subject for me. My parents as well as many other who I personally know are immigrants. I believe others should visit a third world before they begin with their (what I call remarks). Many don't know or can even imagine what immigrants go through. Having to hide in order to protect they struggle to give a better life to their families, pay taxes without being a able to receive a dime in return, working under a scorching sun while picking fruit, (something many Americans would NOT do) for the amount of dollar they receive. All of this to try and provide a better life for their family.
ReplyDeleteI've personally have heard immigrants are taking up jobs,government funded programs like medicaid, and top it of are violent delinquents. I ask my self; Will an American clean toilets, get on their hands and knees to scrub floors,work under hard physical labor? I'm not saying they"re aren't ANY who will, but I do know the majority won't.
What is going on with that immigrants taking for ex: medicaid away? Last i checked they go through the same process and have the same requirements that any other people do. I can't deny their are many immigrant's children are on government funded programs and why wouldn't they? Their parents are working in anything they can get their hands on to provide bread.
What about those good paying jobs immigrants take? Well, people see how jobs are and figure out see hoe easy jobs are. Many are used to dirty hard labor, yet coming here people see how easy jobs can be. Jobs are all around but people need strive for what they want.
Violence is another subject that comes across as something bad immigrants do. I know their are many out their and they do give the rest a bad reputation. What I don't understand is why others of the same race are being measured with that same ruler? Should we point a finger at others who commit crimes of other races? Many if not all come for a better life yet their are those who choose that path that ends up in jail. I'm not defending them because I believe in justice.
I will always be for immigrants who strive for a better life and come here to become a better life..
It is true that the immigration problem is getting bigger even changing immigration laws and it happened very long time ago. I think there are not perfect solutions. But in this video, I could not understand that the U.S. government spends a lot of money for defense them every year. It could be one of solution for this illegal immigration problem but not the answer. I think the U.S.’s government should be found a fundamental problem and change the law more conciliatory to illegal immigrations who are in the U.S. now.
ReplyDeleteso when I heard about immigration I think about me, yes, i'm immigration from vietnam, however i'm a legal immigration not like the others. In this video I found out that the goverment still couldn'd control those illigal immigration, because we could see how easy those illigal immigration broke the protect fench and got to US. I think the government really need to do something to stop this problem. So those people can't pass the country. Think about this, when they come to the US, they don't have any education what can they do beside the illigal job. I understand that because of the family living that's make them no choice. However, illigal means illigal they need to go back to where they are, unless they have the paper work.
ReplyDeleteI am not an American citizen, but I just want to try to say it. When I watched this episode, it expresses a strong message about the government. I think there are a lot of illegal immigrants in the U.S. I knew about that, and they make some problems in here. I think that is true. So, the U.S government tries to build a wall at their border line. I think it will cost a lot of money which is probably taxes. Even though it is built barrier, immigrants are stopped the inflow in here. Also, problems are still going on. I think that will be a stupid thing. Before they do that, they have to think very carefully about other policies. That is the responsibility to the U.S government. And then I barely think about that if a Native American watches this one, they might jeer at it.
ReplyDeleteImmigration was something our nation was founded on and has always faced as a problem. Earlier in history it was Irish, later Chinese, and now Mexican among many others who Americans had a problem against. Spending tax paying dollars to build a giant stretch of wall when an immigrant can just get a passport and let it expire, is a complete waste of time, money, work and materials. I do not think they should, but they will find a way to live here if it is going to help their families, their lives, and get them the freedom they couldn’t have in their country. This is, after all, the American dream.
ReplyDeleteI was glad to find myself in total agreement with Penn and Teller on this one! It really is nice to know that I’m not the only one who would like to open the doors to our country and welcome people in. If we weren’t so restrictive, people wouldn’t have to sneak it. They could come in legally and be better contributors to our society because they wouldn’t have to hide the fact that they are a part of it.
ReplyDeleteAlmost none of us would be here today if it weren’t for our families emigrating here however many years ago, or even today.
I love our country and I think it would be even better if people could come here more freely. Sure, there would be not-so-great people that would come along with all of the really good ones, but it’s not like we take all of our domestic bad guys and send them out of the country. Most of the evil felons that we have here are home-grown. And the guys that did the 9/11 attacks were here legally.
ReplyDeleteMost people immigrating to America come here to work, support their family, and create a better life. Yes, as with everything there are exceptions to the rule and the lawbreakers or people causing trouble should be detained and sent back to Mexican authorities.
ReplyDeleteRemember, it was less than two hundred years ago that America became a country. Unless you are full blood Native American someone in your family was an immigrant and had to struggle to travel to the US so they can make a better life for themselves. The US government definitely underestimates the intelligence of your average immigrant when they build the billion dollar fences on the border. The immigrants can easily get across the fence making the US government look completely foolish for using our resources in this way.
Immigration is getting worse and worse. The fact is, is that immigration is a problem, and that people are coming in from other countries illegally. I think everyone would agree that most of the illegal immigrants are coming from Mexico. There is some pros and cons to having illegal immigrants. Everyone mostly just focuses on the cons. The cons are is that illegals are stealing our jobs and crowding our living places. But what we never look at is the pros. How would we get people to work for us for so cheap? And by having illegals work for us we get things done for a lot cheaper. Having illegals help us in a way. Even though its hard to see these illegals stealing some of our jobs but when we think about it they are helping us.
ReplyDeleteImmigration is a touchy subject because that's what all of our country consist of. We all came over here as immigrants, so I don't feel like it is fair for us to say that no more immigrants are welcome in the United States. It's where all of the opportunities are and also where families want to raise their children, i understand that part but when they come over illegally nothing bothers me more. But the wall they are building around the Mexican border is a joke, no matter what type of wall or fence the US puts up they will always find away around it or through it so we shouldn't spend the time or money. If they come here legally I say the more the merrier.
ReplyDeleteimmigration i feel will always be a problem as long as we live in the land of the free. of course we have people trying to come to this great counrty... wouldn't you? i mean i have no problem with people coming from where ever to work hard and support there families. i feel the best man should get the job. the only problem i have with immigration is alot of illegal immigrants dont pay taxes which falls back onto the people that do pay taxes. i also feel that if your going to come here then be a productive member of society don't sit your lazy ass on a corner and sell drugs or cause our crime rate to increase. if they want to do this then they can remain in their contries they came from.
ReplyDeleteI'm totally on the fence about this issue...Most illegal immigrants want to come to the United States because they know there are jobs available for them for little pay, because they'll settle for anything when it comes to trying to raise their kids and providing a healthy lifestyle. I believe that's great motivation for coming here, and that if they want that, they deserve it.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I'm an immigrant - I came here from Bosnia & Herzegovina eleven years ago, and my parents went through hell when it came to the application and testing processes. So in a way, I believe that if you want to come here form another country, you might as well come here fairly, and go through everything to be able to stay here for as long as you want, and build an immigration-worry-free lifestyle for you and those you care about.
This episode was great...It taught me a lot...But I've seen better.