Wednesday, July 22, 2009

Different for Girls

Post your discussions about Different for Girls and Transgender issues in here!

Sara Jade

31 comments:

  1. I think that this movie Different for Girls is like a love story because you are finding the one you love the most in life. The girl and the boy who grew up together and find themselves later on in life. As they were little the boy would defend the girl from being attack in the shower with those others bullies pushing her around. The boy defends her. When they were adults the girl find the boy and she make a choice of accepting him or not. My point to this movie is that I think everyone should love who they wanted to love even for the same gender. There nothing wrong with loving the same gender because it just make those people happier with the lives and they get a long with each other. Who cares what other people think because if you’re not that person then you don’t have to worry about it.

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  2. This movie was an eye opener into the hard situations and negativity a person such as this has to endure on a day to day basis. It was interesting to see such a story, it made me feel great compassion for the character Kim. Kim is happy the way she is but still has to face constant stares and ridicule. We can never fully understand the inner turmoil she must have felt. We should be happy that she is happy and refrain from judging which, unfortunately, is easier said than done.

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  3. I just loved the movie. Transsexuality is not an easy subject matter for a film. "Different For Girls" has a good plot. This movie treats the subject of transsexuals with respect. Kim isn't a woman because she takes estrogen and has had her penis surgically transformed into a vagina, but because she says she is. My favorite part in the movie is when Kim first moves to kiss Paul, he protests, "I am straight, you know." She responds, "So am I."

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  4. Different for Girls was one of my favorites of the semester. I have a friend who is actually going through the process of female to male cross over and watching her become him has been really emotional in good and bad ways. This movie shows the grey matter and the complexities of gender identity and sexuality. I loved the line in the movie after Kim reaches in for a kiss from Prentice and he states that he is straight, Kim replies so am I. After watching this movie, I feel like even though I am not a complete stranger to this topic I still have a lot that I can learn about this community and the science behind it to better support my friend. Great flick!

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  5. This was my favorite movie of the whole semester. This movie is a real eye opener of what a transexual has to go through each and everyday and how hard it is for them to change into what they really feel like inside. This is also a love story that started since childhood without even them knowing and after becoming adults they find each other again and stay together. Both of them had a hard life and bad relationships they both didn't feel comfortable with or even want to deal with. There is still a lot to learn about this subject and I wish there were more movies like these that show how hard it can be in order to feel confortable with your true self and help those people that are closed minded about this subject.

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  6. This was one of the better movies I felt this semester. It seemed to me that Kim might have been settling for Prentice. I got the impression in the beginning when he needed money from her he was using her. He didn't seem sensitive to the new her. I felt he just wanted her to testify to save his butt. Kim was the selfless person by far in their relationship. Maybe since they were mates in school it was harder for him to accept that his friend was a transsexual. He did eventually try to learn more about her, and accepted her. She seemed happy with him so I guess it all worked out in the end.

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  7. This movie was interesting. I am most curious about the DNA of people who get transgender surgery. I think it is so interesting that so much of what we are is dependant on our DNA and I wonder what role it plays in transgender surgery. I have learned about people who have more than one x in there xy pair of chromosomes. This is a condition called -Klinefelter syndrome. It is one of the most common genetic abnormalities known and may occur as frequently as 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 male births (Essentials of Pathophysiology- Carol Mattson Porth.) I think transgender surgery seems like the biggest hassle imaginable. You would have to change nearly everything. It would be expensive and painful. You would have to go through so much ridicule. It is hard for me to understand why changing your sex would be rewarding enough to put up with all that comes with transgender surgery. I think it would be interesting if there were statistics on the DNA of people who decide to put so much effort to changing their sex. I think having an extra x or two would make a differnece in they way one feels. I don’t have to agree with transgender surgery, but I know the people who go through it do because how could you go though that if you didn't.

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  8. I have never before seen any movies on this subject before. The movie was interesting for me as I learned more on the subject of male to female conversion. I never knew how exactly this works and how much suffering a person needs to endure during this process. I generally like British movies and this one was no exception. One of the most intriguing aspect of the movie (and what could easily be missed if you miss the shower scene at the very beginning of it) is the twist in the story at the very end. In the shower scene, we see a young Prentice coming to the defence of and comforting a schoolmate after being picked on by a group of bullies/students for being queer. I assumed that Prentice "rescues" is Kim/Karl. However, we only realize near the end of the movie when Kim/Karl's before and after photos are published by the newspaper that he was actually NOT the rescued boy, but one of the bullies instead. I may be wrong on that one.
    I had a hard time understanding Kim's attraction to Prentice. She came across as intelligent, driven, well educated and conservative. Whereas his character was slow on the uptake, uneducated, irresponsible, at times insensitive and totally lacking any ambition with regards to his life or career
    Overall, I was very impressed with this film. I loved the boundaries that it broke, again .. the truth that it spoke, and the realistic story that it presented. This was a beautiful film that will be used as a stepping stone for other films of this nature.

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  9. In my opinion transgender it’s just like a cocoon getting ready to change into something better like a butterfly. They know all the time what they are, just like the character Kim, but they are afraid of the world around them. It’s hard for them to come out and be accepted. This film makes you think. We need to accept people for what they are and not for what we want them to be. I know that some people disagree but obviously they aren’t thinking clearly.

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  10. I think it is interesting that someone decides to get a sex change because they don't want to have to hide who they feel they really are and yet once they have the change they kind of "hide out" anyway because they don't want to have to deal with the ridicule. Like Kim said in the movie "I've spent the last four years not getting into trouble" or something in that sense. I think it's sad that they feel like they to hide who they are. I feel that with how much someone has to go through to change their sex and become who they really are and go through everything that comes with that then they should be treated the way they want to be treated I mean they have done more than prove that they deserve it. I can't remember who said it in class but she said that it's almost like they are more of a woman (or man depending) than we are because they actually had to work for it and do something to become that instead of just being given it. I totally agree.

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  11. I find this sex change stuff to be weird. I mean yea, it's fine sometimes, like for those seriously born with the other genes but with certain genitalial and what not, but for the ones that do it having nothing like that to back it up and do it for fun, that's weird to the max. I don't care if they do it or not, it's their choice, but personally I'll just have this odd impression about them no matter what they do. The storyline at the base of this movie was a good one for the topic. I really feel it got the message across about how some just can't resist the change and then how much discrimination they recieve. The discrimination portion of it goes back to racism and sexism and all those -ism's out there. It's stupid to think of an individual as being less than you simply because he had a sex change. He's still human, still has the same rights as anyone else, no need to be show an offense. You're entitled to your opinion and by all means feel offended and flabberghasted if you want, but don't let it become noticed, keep it to yourself, and especially don't treat unjustly because of it.

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  12. This movie was entertaining for the most part but I think that surgically changing gender is not only against the laws of nature but it mocks the one who created us. Many people have a very different view of deity but most religion believes in a creator. I believe that gender is a very important part of who we were even before we were created and will last with us forever. I think that no matter how good the medical field becomes, it will never be good enough to really change someone’s gender. Males will always deep down continue to be males and females respectively. I feel like everyone should have the agency to do what they feel is right so I don't care that people have that kind of surgery available to them but I don't want it being taught in schools so kids go up thinking that it is a normal thing to do. Anyway, I enjoyed the class and reading everyone else’s posts. Thanks a lot!

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  13. I had never seen this type of movie before. It was interesting to see another person's life in a complete 180 degree view. This showed us many may have inner turmoil that we may not even think about. The sex change to me was what it was, a sex change. People do what they what when they when they want. If were not paying their bills why should we have an opinion on they live their life? No one deserves to be excluded because of the way they feel.

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  14. The movie was really interesting and romantic like a love story eventhought it's a same gender love. Everyone has the right to live and the right to love whoever they want to love as long as it's not illigal. Nothing wrong to love the person who has the same gender as us. At first I found that was really strange to be around those people however my friend is gay so I could understand how they feel. They've borned like that, it's not what they wanted to be. What can we do but trying to accepting them. Beside, it's their lives they can do whatever they want, and love whoever they wanted to love.

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  15. This movie made me to open my eyes about a transgender ` s love and was interesting for me as I could know about transgender. This one should make a controversial topic, but it is not a big deal to me; I think the most telling part is the shower scene in this one. Because some schoolmates bothered Kim at that time, Prentice saved her. This part gave a hint to me about the future they might fall in love. Maybe, some people think this one is not a love story, but I want to think this is a love story even though Kim used to be man. Finally, they are happy. I do not want bother or judge them. This one is impressive to me.

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  16. I'd like to start my comment off by saying that this movie opened my eyes more so than any other film that we have watched this entire semester. Prior to this movie, i was not educated when it came to the different choices and lifestyles that the word "transgender" encompasses. Whether it be a transexual, drag queen, cross dresser, etc. i was not fully aware of extreme differences that they all engender.

    From this movie, i adopted a greater understanding of the life of a transexual. My favorite part was when Prentice said "I'm straight..." and then she said, "well so am i..." Those two measily lines capture the message, i believe, in a greater way than most other approaches could have. From that moment on, i truly saw her as a woman, and not a man, and i think that was the point that the movie tried to drive home.

    In the end, i feel as if i've adopted a greater understanding. Although i will not likely experience what it is like to be a transgender, i feel for their struggles and accomplishments. I'm glad i got to see this movie.

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  17. I never thought much about the issue of Transgenderism until I met someone in that situation a few years ago. I’ve always felt strongly for Gay rights, but this is a different issue altogether. I really felt nothing for or against it, I was just uninformed. Now that I have done some research and gotten to know this one woman my eyes have been opened right up. I think it’s astonishing how often people are born in the wrong body. I really can’t imagine anything being worse. People aren’t judged, at least not as a “choice” for being born with other things wrong with their bodies…blind, deaf, missing limbs, etc. Sure, they’re judged as not being able to do as much, which is wrong, but no one thinks that they CHOSE to be that way. Unfortunately, most people who come across a person who is transgendered believe that they have “chosen” to be so. Honestly, I can’t think of anyone who could possibly CHOOSE such a life! It must be so confusing and heart-breaking. And I think that most people, while they know deep down that something’s not right, they fight against it in order to have a “normal” life. This, of course, doesn’t usually work out well and often ends up in even MORE heart-break.

    I loved that this movie portrayed the transgendered woman as the “normal”, with-it, put-together one and the “regular guy” was the screw-up. She was just a woman trying to live her life as best she could and stay under the radar. But when the two came together, I think they both became better, more complete people! The best part about this movie was that it actually had a happy ending!

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  18. I liked the movie. It essentially followed the flow of what any romantic comedy/ dramedy would. It didn’t necessarily have to follow along the storyline of the transgenderism. It could have been a “straight” couple, a gay couple, a lesbian couple, etc. But it portrayed transgenderism as just a part of this couple’s relationship.
    It was nice that the story actually had a happy ending. Unfortunately, most stories about Transgenderism end tragically. As Sara Jade pointed out, this one was a fictional story, but I’d really like to see more “fairy tale” endings like these for transgendered people in real life. They’ve been through enough and deserve a happy ending.

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  19. This film was very good. This was my favorite movie of the whole semester. They were best friends when they were in high school. But 10years later they met again as woman and guy. Kim has become transgender. After the news, it threw Karl into confusion. This film is kind of love story but it could be a little shock for people who calls homosexual in negative way. People never seriously think about their life. They were born, as guy with body functions of male but their human nature is female. So they live uneasy life. Also they always feel uneasy about being in the company of strangers. In the film, Kim seemed that she makes people uncomfortable around her. Also during the film I felt she tries to hide herself and her felling.
    Few days ago, a transgender super model was selected by competitive examination in Korea. At first, she didn’t mention she is transgender. So some people disagreed with her being supermodel after she mentioned that. But many people were attractive woman when people first saw. Now most of Korean encourages her to be supermodel as a woman. So I think people need a conversion and Transsexual doesn’t need to hide them any more.

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  20. I believe this film was trying to show people that a man who has changed to a woman can live a normal female life. The transsexual woman's apartment was decorated very effeminate, like a true female live there. Her actions were so female-like sometimes I even forgot the actor used to be a man. I think that was the point of the movie.

    It was interesting to see how the guy transformed from being totally against touching her to being in a full relationship with someone who used to be a man. He fell in love with who she was on the inside and not thinking about what she used to be.

    I consider myself a very open minded person, but this semester has further opened my eyes and understanding of people different from myself. Thank you.

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  21. This movie was very interesting. It was an eye opener to the hard situations and negativity a person such as this has to go through everyday on a daily basis. It was interesting to see such a story, I felt it was a love story.

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  22. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal” is a phrase in our constitution that has been disputed over the years and cost many lives. This is usually considered only an argument between races but as far as I know has no additional clause saying anything like… except transsexuals or homosexuals… We fight against discrimination but it is often viewed as okay in society to make fun of, have a “phobia”, or hate people because of their decision to change their sex. That’s bullshit. People have every right to be who they want to be and should not have to put up with other peoples close mindedness and judgment or be forced to live in hiding from the world’s criticism and ridicule.

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  23. This movie gave me a chance to think about transsexuals’ love. Actually, I did not think about that deeply before. And this movie showed me how transsexuals are having hard time and their thoughts when they are falling in love. It was just normal love for them but many people do not think because of stereotypes (I was one of them before). I cannot speak enough of how real and true this film was but it made my eyes open. Overall, I like that the movie avoids stereotypes. It was cheerful and romantic without ever being conventional. I thought it was a sweet and fair treatment of a very difficult and sometimes painful subject.

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  24. Sorry to say Sara but this movie wasn’t even close to Soldiers Girl. Now with that said, I think people need to do what makes them happy. There is no such thing as normal anymore. (If there ever really was) There is always going to be ignorant people raising a stink over things they don’t understand, saying it is immoral and going against Gods will. Well sorry to say but if God was so perfect why would he screw up and put someone in the wrong body so to speak. Hiding behind something that hasn’t ever been proven to cover up your insecurities about something you don’t understand is kind of funny to me. Let people be happy and make their own choices, if you think that it is wrong keep it to yourself unless asked.

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  25. This movie was a good look at how people treat someone who is different. It doesn't matter in what why someone is, like being a transexual or just being a little quirky, people that are different live a tough life. I'm glad that Kim found Prentice, even if it was an odd match. People need to find what makes them happy, and if they make each other happy, that's all that matters. I'm really glad this movie had a happy ending. It showed that there is still hope and happiness out there.

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  26. This movie was very interesting to me. I have never really thought about this topic very deeply before. I thought that it was a good movie even though it is not one I would watch again. I am not saying anything bad about transsexuals, but I just thought it was just another chick flick and that is just not my thing. It was a eye opener though and I am glad it had a happy ending.

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  27. This is definitely an interesting topic to say the least and is something that I am not too comfortable talking about. I have to agree with what was said in class that I am a male through and through. I always have been and have always wanted to be and have never doubted that so it would be strange to feel otherwise. If people need to make a switch permanent like Kim did or they think they should be a certain way that is fine. If that makes them happy then thats good for them. I will say though as was mentioned in class if someone has to take estrogen to make them have female traits or if they have to have a surgery to remove, add, or make their body look like a certain gender that is not something that is natural.

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  28. The scene that started out this movie was really sad, and showed the relationship that Kim had with Prentice from when they were in school together, and the bond that they created from a young age. I felt bad for Kim and the struggle that she had to overcome. I was impressed with Prentice and his ability to accept Kim for who she had become, and the choices that she had made in her life. I do not agree with the concept of this movie. I think that we are put in the bodies that they are suppose to be in. I think that gender is something that is learned socially, just like anything else. After watching the scene where they are intimate together, i was really disturbed. I didn't understand how Prentice could sleep with her knowing that she used to be one of his male mates, but i was impressed with his acceptance. My eyes were huge after watching the movie, and i don't think i'm ever going to be the same.

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  29. This movie was very interesting, but to be honest with you it really caught me off gaurd. I think the writers and producers are trying to send a positive message to all the viewers but just the story line to the film kind of set a bad vibe for me. But I can see how some people can find positive things to like about this film. Like how Prentice is a really down to earth guy and sticks up for Kim throughout the whole movie, even when they were younger. I can see why this movie is so controversial because it questions peoples morals, standards and beliefs. In conclusion I think the film has a firm positive message that is trying to be deliverd but evrything else just really creeped me out. ~Seth

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  30. Transgenderism is a very hard topic to discuss and also to see happen in the world. This film did a good job on letting us know how those people feel on a day to day basis. It is hard to fit in in a world that for the most part rejects it. The fact is is that these people such as Kim have been born this way and even though they have to go through surgical things to make themselves the way they want to be, it doesn't change the fact that thats how they have anways been. Its really hard to accept these people. The truth is is that we need to. I love how controversial this topic is and how some people are so against this. For some reason it is easy for me to accept people the way they are but for sure we need to accept people for making a drastic social and physical change into their lives.

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  31. I absolutely adored this movie. Even though the plot had a few holes in them, such as what happened to Prentice's girlfriend, I still thought the story was magnificent and expressed - very thoroughly - a normal heterosexual relationship. This movie did a brilliant job in showing the lives of those involved in transgenderism and how tough it can be, especially when it comes to relations with others. But it also showed us how ordinary of people they are, living ordinary lives to how they see fit...It's about time we see it fit as well, it's only fair.

    It's just sad to see so many people non-accepting and misunderstanding the lives of trans genders. I think we must all wake up and realize that there is much more to life than picking at those who are slightly different; what a waste of time. :)

    I love this movie!

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